Collectivity is a thing to be understood in a much deeper way than we have thought. First of all, in collectivity, when we say this body is a collective instrument made out of many cells, then what do we understand? That first thing is that in collectivity we must realize that there is interdependence. We have to depend on others. Like he has to depend on her and she is dependent upon him. But when it comes to ego, not only that it separates you from each other — that is not the only thing it does — but it teaches you not to be dependent on anyone. You have to depend on others. You are not to exploit others, but you have to depend on others and others have to depend upon you first thing very much. (5.06.1979)