About the environment, they are having a meeting on the environment. That, too, is only solved through the Spirit. All environment problems can be solved only spiritually, if you have spiritual ascent. Otherwise, you cannot. You can try anything. It is like patching up the sky. See now, it is a very deep-rooted thing that we do not understand that spirit. It is the most practical thing. You see, we think spirit, we think it is like a drunkard. Spiritual man — he is a cult, he is a drunkard, he is most abnormal. He is funny. Either he hits people or runs away from them. This is the idea we have got about a spiritual personality. But just see you are spiritual. (7.06.1982)